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Brake union torque

Postby coullstar » February 8th, 2010, 10:02 pm

Looked through my downloaded Bently manual for a specfic torque for the brake unions on between the front caliper and hose. Ive got some DG braided hoses for the 288 calipers and was looking to get them connected up.
Is it just a case of tightening till the copper washers are squashed or is there a specific torque?
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby John-M » February 9th, 2010, 12:44 am

I'm interested in the same subject - doing the same brake upgrade quite soon.
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby Jon_vr6 » February 9th, 2010, 12:49 am

tighten up and check for leaks, thats all i did
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby Yandards » February 9th, 2010, 11:13 am

There is an element of 'feel' in how tight to do these.

I am not sure about 288mm brake calipers but the 280 and 256mm ones have a nipple to ensure positive locking and once that's hit home in the caliper it only needs a 1/8 to 1/4 of a turn max.

As the 288mm sound like the sealing point for the banjo bolt is achieved through copper washers then I would offer the same advice, do them up until it goes a little tight (I am talking about that first grab of tightness when the assembly is all held nice and tight) and then stick an 1/8th on it. If it leaks when bleeding then consider another 1/8th.
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby Supercharged » February 9th, 2010, 1:16 pm

Goodridge say 14Nm I think for the banjo bolt (I would check this) but they use copper washers where VW use steel.
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby John-M » February 9th, 2010, 1:28 pm

I'm also intrested in the setting for the join between the braided hose and the solid piping - i.e. the join at the 'other' end of the braided hose.
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby mimjed » February 9th, 2010, 1:53 pm

there isnt a specific torque as far as im aware.

just judgement really. the idea is to have it tight but definatley not to tight.

you can feel when it starts to bite so stop clean it up and check for leaks. if it leaks 1/4 of a turn and repeat.

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Re: Brake union torque

Postby coullstar » February 9th, 2010, 1:58 pm

Its copper washers and from what I can see they are designed to crush. I was going to do the tight then 1/8th turn but wanted to check. Im sure that principal whould be fine for the connection to the hard line as well.
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby davidwort » February 9th, 2010, 2:59 pm

AFAIK the 'non copper' washers aren't steel but alloy, so they are about as soft as copper ones and can be treated much the same.
In theory one use, then replace, but in practice you can get away with reuse.
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Re: Brake union torque

Postby colinstubbs » February 9th, 2010, 7:25 pm

Probably ally alloy like aircraft ones 8)
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